Hi Kathy, I list ZTRs from the big box stores because many people today want to buy online (and I make a little commission off the sale) That said, You will get a better experience buying from a dealer. Thanks, Mark. A good size for lawn tractors and zero-turns. I researched and asked around about the engines and decided that all engines need good upkeep, and good clean air filtration is paramount. Perennial Rye and Tall Fescue have a lot more moisture in the stalk than Bluegrass, especially in the spring. I live in the upstate of SC, have a mixture of cool season and warm season grasses, and I try to control the crabgrass, dandelions, and other weeds. Not so much focused on comfort. Is the ZT-2800 in the Titan (75312) comparable to the ZT-3100 because of the different drive modes available on the Toro? 1. Hi Jake, I like the Ariens better. Both Gravely and Toro will be around for parts and service for years to come. I have a one acre lot. Hi Craig, Thanks for the complete explanation it helps a lot! Not sure what engine you have for the Hustler option but if it has a kawasaki or honda I would go that route. I suggest getting the Cyclone with the dual-wheel casters and the electric start engine. I have 2 1/2 acres and my Husky is 9 years old. Hi Paul. Let me tell you why! Both are heavier duty than the ZT2, have better decks that will cut better and faster, however the Apex is only a few hundred more so is the best choice in my opinion. Ariens IKON XD Mowing Review. 4 Rough hilly acres to mow. option as I could buy two of those for the price of the Walker or Clipper, Decisions, decisions.. Hi Wilson, Yes, Bradley is a hard sell to many people because he has never set up a larger dealer network. Hi Glen, if stripes are your thing and it doesnt do the best for you Gravely does make a stripe kit for that deck (Ariens and Gravely are the same). He is very hard on the mower (over 150 trees to mow around) and its held up very well. Thank you very much, I appreciate your input. Hi Tommy, I like both the Toro and the Ariens/Gravely a lot. I have it professionally serviced last July and informed them of the issue. Here are my questions: if i am willing to spend between 6-7k.. what would you say is the best mower i can get (residential/commercial). At 1350 pounds it weighs 50% more than a similar size residential mower. The type of grass will also make a huge difference. He is a very good mechanic, but I want to help him with a proper mower. Your site has given me a good quick education. Ariens Apex (overkill) With the perfect lawn mower size, this is a wonderful product with robust structure and good maneuverability. Hi Jerry this suspension goes between your existing seat and the mounting plate. He has 5 acres of farm lawn with a few steeper slopes. Im leaning towards a 42 inch deck for either mower I choose. I like some of the stuff on the zt1, like the larger tires, the lights, my kids really like the looks of it, (they say it reminds them of bumblebee from the transformers movies), but Ive been reading about owners having problems with deck vibrations, so Im leery about getting it. He can get parts for the Jonsered and many of the parts he has on the shelf for the Husqvarna tractors and ZTRs will fit. I would like to upgrade from my 2000 dixon with a 50 deck and a 15.5 hp vanguard. For years they sold a contractor grade engine that was $300 cheaper than the rest and it held up well so even though theyve raised their prices many small owner/operators still want the name. They make small batches and keep the price very affordable. Its a very nice mower, cuts very well and it will last you many years. Is this not the best value out there in commercial mowers? Appreciate all the help and insight. What are your suggestions for my yard .35 acres, flat land, no trees in the back but I do have 3 in the front and on the side. Been using a 42 in cone drive dixon for 20 years with blower bagger. Zero-Turn Stand On. Conclusion I really tried to like the Cub. Its a much lighter weight mower than the Toro or Cub Cadet. I have 1 acre lot in which my home is 2200 sq ft. My yard is mostly flat in which it has been graded like a bowl. Hi Daron, What Toro means is hitch/tongue weight or the downward force on the hitch, not what it can pull. Bigger wheels- 22 inches in rear, 12 in front. It has accessories for power deck lift and a mower jack for easy blade changes. Zero turn mower for tight spaces. Again, that seems too much money and I am struggling to justify spending that much. I dont necessarily want to mow the whole thing, but at least half of it. There is also the Z525E but I keep reading about the Tuff Torq hydros burning up after the 2 yr warranty :(. Which would you recommend? Learn more in our Kubota vs. Bad Boy zero-turn mower comparison. Yes, I like the Ariens but if you put the Ariens and Country Clipper side-by-side youll go with the Clipper. Hi Paul, 1. It has the heavier duty trannys and really rides nice! Unless you have a local dealer that will treat you well Id stay away from them. I prefer to deal with local dealers versus the big box stores. Appreciate the in depth insight on the towing/tongue weight. Thought kubota z421kw was nice. This one felt great and I almost bought on the spot. Because of the number of trees on the property, I feel like a lawn tractor would end up increasing the amount of time it takes me to mow over my current self-propelled mower so Im looking at ZTRs. Is the 3-blades on the Ariens an advantage for mulching? Thanks for your time. What can you tell me about these two, is it worth paying the extra $? Any recommendations you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I was looking at the exmark radius 48 but they dont offer the kawasaki engine with them, do you know anything about those engines that exmark is using in their radius mowers. My wife has demanded I either take down some trees, buy some equipment that can handle the job, or hire it out. However, Im wondering if either of these would be substantially easier to work on for basic maintenance (oil/filter changes, blade sharpening, etc. Hi Paul. Thanks for taking the time to answer. If you are going ANYWHERE near a ditch you need a 60 inch or larger ZTR and the angle should be less than 15 degrees. I hope you find a good dealer to work with and enjoy the mower you decide on. Toro timecutter HD or Thanks, Mark. 1. So, yes, if you are willing to spend the money its a very good mower for what you want to do. Tractor Supply sells the Bad Boy brand and they have several models that look good but they are kind of high ($4,400 for the "ZT"), and to round it off Toro (model SS4266) has some in my size and budget range. I do like the ZT1 by Cub Cadet as well and the Z335E by John Derek. We have one here and my wife has been trying to break it for over two years. I looked at the Toro Time Cutter 54 with my ride and decided for $200 more to get the 60 without MyRide as it has a beefier trans and larger wheels in front. Thank you for what you do. I assume the zero turn would have a lower center of gravity, but less weight on the front wheels. The 52 Vanguard is $4800 at SLE, but it only gives you 4 more deck.. It is developing a stellar reputation. Toro TITAN 60" / Model 75313. First of all, great article. I think thats unfair. Yes, most people dont see the advantage of the steering wheel so Toro is discontinuing it. Get Shipping Quotes Opens in a new tab. Ive really been eyeing the MX5075 so Im glad you mentioned that one. Two questions who made that mower for Sears and any idea if I was lucky with the Deere, thi is normal wear (typically 35-50 hrs per season) or this is an issue? The Gravely has the best deck for cutting longer grass and it will handle the hills. Thank you. Engine output is estimated at 22.2hp at 3,700 RPM. Fabricated Deck 24 HP Kohler Pro 7000 Series Engine with Roll Over ProtectionAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZTX4 60 in. IronForged Deck 24.5 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. I want to go the mulching route so that I can avoid so many grass clippings. Hi Larry, There is nothing wrong with the Toro or ExMark except the sales didnt meet Toros expectations. If you replace the bracket replace the spring at the same time. We also have a gorilla yard cart and would like some thing with a hitch pin to pull around firewood or brush etc. A friend says I should get a Kubota that will last the rest of my life. Just so you know. The Cub Cadet is the clear winner right now but we need to give the EGO a chance this year to prove itself. I wanted to begin my research. Zero-Turn Mower $3499 I am considering an after-market DonBar to help me get on and off. Gator blades are a better solution than the stock mulching blades but they will also have problems with spring grass or tall grass. I have about 5 acres with a few bumps but not too bad I will cut about once a week. Was curious your thoughts on a Bad Boy MZ Magnum 54 vs brands in your top models? The Kubota Z700 series (Z723KH-48 / Z724KH-54 / Z725KH-60 / Z724XKW-48 / Z724XKW-54 / Z726XKW-60) mowers have a top speed of 11.2 MPH for maximum productivity when you need to get the job done fast. Im leaning towards the Toro and more of the 50 inch model with the Kawasaki engine. The Toro also cuts exceptionally well but it wont stripe without a stripe kit. They didnt have the optional step and grab bar, but I was able to get on and off by stepping on the deck and using the hand support in front of the left armrest to balance. What is your experience with robotic mowers? Its a very tough mower and with the suspension seat you can mow up to 10 acres a lot faster than the three you mentioned. I am looking at zero turns and I feel like I can spend $3,000 or less and get a great mower. Hi Dave, All five brands are a great choice in that price range. Mowers in the price range are built tough enough to handle a sapling or 2-inch stump without damage but again thats not what they are designed to do. 1st time for ZTM. Toro TimeCutter SS4225. I had a guy come in and clear the wooded area, as it was heavily overgrown. Heres what I like about the Bradley (link below): ZT3400 drives / 23 rear tires. Just wanted to mention a few things the Apex is currently $300 off, making it a very good deal. After that, if you take care of the machine it will last for you. A secret mowing steeper slopes. It will give you a cut you can be proud of. Hi Brad, All three have transmissions capable of mowing slopes. 7. Its the 48 inch Bradley Stand-On. The manufactures are building all kinds of equipment but the dealers are not qualifying the buyers so they get the right equipment for the jobs they have. I did check out your videos last week, very informative! Are these two hydros basically the same or are the 3100s be the better choice of the two? A 900-hour machine is ripe for $300-$1500 of minor repairs. You will like the cut of the John Deere a lot. Its smoother than the 7000 series and has a larger air cleaner. I have been a follower of your site for a few years now. By the way, the MX5050 compares to the Gravely ZT X. The difference between the Gravely ZT X 52 and the Ariens IKON XD is where its sold. I am looking between the Ariens Ikon X 52 and the Toro MX5000. He said he prefers the Toro with the Kawasaki engine over the Cub. Any recommendations on brand and a specific mower in that brand? Seems safer on slopes can easily step off in the event of a problem (try this on a ZTR) Ive been looking at the Ariens Ikon XD 42 which seems well reviewed. Even though the John Deere cuts very well I just have a problem with the price. Hi Paul, Im looking at zero turns for hilly and bumpy terrain. (About $2999) If you husband is over 200 lbs I recommend the IKON. The Toro V-twin is proving to be a very good engine so it really doesnt matter if you get one with the Kohler or Toro. I attribute that to the uncovered engine and its close proximity to the operator, and perhaps to the fact that the engine enclosure basically directs the sound straight up right in back of the operator. I recommend staying with a 48-54 inch deck. Im looking at the specs from a booklet recently supplied by the local Cub Cadet dealer, and for the ZT2 50, and it says that the power train is a Dual Hydro-Gear ZT-2800. The Toro Titan with MyRide is the best riding residential mower on the market. Hi Rob, Lets start with the Toro. A lot of deck designs have a harmonic vibration at certain speeds. You are right that the dealer can often make the difference, and the one I got mine from is awesome! The smaller ones are top-heavy, wobble around on rough ground, can be very tippy and dont have good traction on rough ground or slopes. If you go any less than this price range and they ZTR will only last you a couple of years. Paul, we have a rough 1.2 acre yard with some trees, beds, stumps, etc. Paul a number of years ago I purchased a Craftsman 42 inch mower (T2200) that you recommended. I have a rather small yard no more than 1.5 acres but I have a serious spinal cord injury that causes a very painful condition and constant mind numbing back pain so I probably shouldnt cut grass at all but I enjoy it and it allows me to feel productive which is something I miss ever since someones carelessness left me disabled about 4 years back. Thanks Paul! The deck also sits out front so you can trim under stuff and with the 48-inch deck, it will trim right around fence post and landscaping without leaving anything to trim. If I went with the Toro, I would probably purchase it from Home Depot online. Im put off by the EZT hydros on the Ikon series. With the Walker, he was able to mow the hill mostly side to side, or on a diagonal, rather than up and down. Check Price. 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